Comments on: The TCU/Boise State Problem http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:37:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: geoausch http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-119 geoausch Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:58:56 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-119 Also, TCU has great coaching. Gary Patterson is as good of a coach as anyone in the country. His creativity is what sets him apart. He drafts high schools running backs no one wants and turns them into defensive ends and linebackers. I love how people dismiss TCU as some tradiitional light weight school. They have produced three NFL hall of famers and LT will be number four whenever he decides to retire. That's more than Florida, Cincy and Iowa. Also, TCU has great coaching. Gary Patterson is as good of a coach as anyone in the country. His creativity is what sets him apart. He drafts high schools running backs no one wants and turns them into defensive ends and linebackers.

I love how people dismiss TCU as some tradiitional light weight school. They have produced three NFL hall of famers and LT will be number four whenever he decides to retire. That’s more than Florida, Cincy and Iowa.

]]> By: bat99 http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-118 bat99 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:25:09 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-118 Robert, I love how you think you and Cowherd have this figured out. You can't have reality because the system is flawed. If BSU is always overrated, then how come they win their bowl game every year, except last year against TCU where they lost by one point. I have thought Cincy has been a tad overrated, but we will see. How can you say these teams get respect? If any of these teams had had just one lost they would be playing in Shrevport or Memphis. Florida, UT, Alabama, Ohio St can have one loss and still be playing in a BCS game, or in the case of Iowa 2 losses. If you have to go undefeated to make it to a BCS game then you have no respect. I don't care what Cowherd says TCU could beat Alabama, UT, or Florida on any day and not just once out of 10. Now could TCU go thru the SEC or Big XII undefeated, probably not, because they don't have the depth of the big schools but their top 30 players can compete with any other school in the country. Robert, I love how you think you and Cowherd have this figured out. You can’t have reality because the system is flawed. If BSU is always overrated, then how come they win their bowl game every year, except last year against TCU where they lost by one point. I have thought Cincy has been a tad overrated, but we will see. How can you say these teams get respect? If any of these teams had had just one lost they would be playing in Shrevport or Memphis. Florida, UT, Alabama, Ohio St can have one loss and still be playing in a BCS game, or in the case of Iowa 2 losses. If you have to go undefeated to make it to a BCS game then you have no respect. I don’t care what Cowherd says TCU could beat Alabama, UT, or Florida on any day and not just once out of 10. Now could TCU go thru the SEC or Big XII undefeated, probably not, because they don’t have the depth of the big schools but their top 30 players can compete with any other school in the country.

]]> By: geoausch http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-117 geoausch Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:44:42 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-117 There are several teams out there more "overrated" than BSU or TCU. Two of them are in other BCS game--Ohio State and Iowa. The Rose Bowl takes a bad system, the BCS, and makes it worse. By matching the Pac-10/Big 10 winner you automatically take one BCS game out of contention. The BCS is about finding the best college football teams in the country, not about tradition. Just think, if not for the Rose Bowl, we could have seen a possible Boise/Ohio St. game or TCU/Oregon. That would have been a lot better than this current mess. There are several teams out there more “overrated” than BSU or TCU. Two of them are in other BCS game–Ohio State and Iowa.

The Rose Bowl takes a bad system, the BCS, and makes it worse. By matching the Pac-10/Big 10 winner you automatically take one BCS game out of contention. The BCS is about finding the best college football teams in the country, not about tradition.

Just think, if not for the Rose Bowl, we could have seen a possible Boise/Ohio St. game or TCU/Oregon. That would have been a lot better than this current mess.

]]> By: Robert http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-116 Robert Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:31:04 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-116 One other thing about this post - since when do those teams NOT get respect? I'm entirely with Cowherd. I'm rooting for reality. Also, Kellen Moore's going to be exposed because he can't create outside a pocket. He might be the most overhyped player in any sport ever. And Andy Dalton is probably better but gets less credit. It's simply amazing how year to year BSU is the most overrated team in the nation. I wish people would watch the games. There's a reason the computers don't like them. One other thing about this post – since when do those teams NOT get respect? I’m entirely with Cowherd. I’m rooting for reality.

Also, Kellen Moore’s going to be exposed because he can’t create outside a pocket. He might be the most overhyped player in any sport ever. And Andy Dalton is probably better but gets less credit. It’s simply amazing how year to year BSU is the most overrated team in the nation. I wish people would watch the games. There’s a reason the computers don’t like them.

]]> By: Robert http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-115 Robert Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:29:25 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-115 Well, I appreciate that candor at least, but I'm going to root against Boise this year due to the one-game season they've played. I do not think that merits BCS recognition, or that it should. Fair is holding people accountable to a quality slate, and it's why Texas didn't deserve the national chamionship last year. Play somebody. It's why, despite the head-to-head, I'd vote Oregon ahead of Boise. Boise had a better game, sure, but Oregon had a better season. Same goes for OU and UT last year. Eventually, the BCS gets it right. Apparently it takes more time to do that this year. Well, I appreciate that candor at least, but I’m going to root against Boise this year due to the one-game season they’ve played. I do not think that merits BCS recognition, or that it should. Fair is holding people accountable to a quality slate, and it’s why Texas didn’t deserve the national chamionship last year. Play somebody. It’s why, despite the head-to-head, I’d vote Oregon ahead of Boise. Boise had a better game, sure, but Oregon had a better season. Same goes for OU and UT last year. Eventually, the BCS gets it right. Apparently it takes more time to do that this year.

]]> By: geoausch http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-114 geoausch Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:11:29 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-114 Robert, I argued that very point on this blog last year prior to the BCS selection, after OU "won" the Big 12 South by virtue of having a better BCS ranking than Texas. Even though they had the same record and Texas had beaten them on the field earlier in the season. Here's a link to that post or simply search "BCS" on my site: http://geoausch.com/2008/12/02/197/ This is what I wrote in the conclusion: "The only way to change the system is to beat the system. The way to beat the system is to impact the revenue of the current system. If Oklahoma wins, as expected, on Saturday and the BCS invites them to their national title game, I call on each and everyone of you to boycott the BCS totally. Do not watch any of the BCS games on TV. Do not attend any of the BCS games in person. Write Fox, the NCAA and all the sponsors (I will try and provide a list) and tell them why you are not watching the BCS and what you expect in the future." I still stand by those remarks, to change the system, you have to beat the system. This does not mean I have to root against TCU and Boise getting a "fair" shot. Robert, I argued that very point on this blog last year prior to the BCS selection, after OU “won” the Big 12 South by virtue of having a better BCS ranking than Texas. Even though they had the same record and Texas had beaten them on the field earlier in the season.

Here’s a link to that post or simply search “BCS” on my site: http://geoausch.com/2008/12/02/197/

This is what I wrote in the conclusion:

“The only way to change the system is to beat the system. The way to beat the system is to impact the revenue of the current system. If Oklahoma wins, as expected, on Saturday and the BCS invites them to their national title game, I call on each and everyone of you to boycott the BCS totally. Do not watch any of the BCS games on TV. Do not attend any of the BCS games in person. Write Fox, the NCAA and all the sponsors (I will try and provide a list) and tell them why you are not watching the BCS and what you expect in the future.”

I still stand by those remarks, to change the system, you have to beat the system. This does not mean I have to root against TCU and Boise getting a “fair” shot.

]]> By: robert http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-113 robert Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:53:38 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-113 the worst thing that could happen for tcu or boise would be to make the national championship. they're nice teams to root for, but reality does not exist in dreaming. the worst thing that could happen for tcu or boise would be to make the national championship. they’re nice teams to root for, but reality does not exist in dreaming.

]]> By: robert http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-112 robert Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:50:48 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-112 bat99 and geoausch: no, i get the points you guys are trying to make. it's just that you don't get the BCS. ask brad edwards of espn his opinion. you know what he says? hint: jerry palm says the same thing. "the one thing that will not change the BCS is anything that takes place on the field." that's it, simple, cut and plain. you're arguing simple arguments, which teams like utah, tcu and boise have helped validify. yes, they are quality teams. yes, they can beat anyone, anyday of the weak. but they obviously have so much more to prove, and you can't possibly tell me Alabama has as much to prove in the Sugar Bowl as Utah does. i get that you guys are looking for "teams to get their shot." everyone likes an underdog (except the economy, which will generate more money from the Sugar, Rose and NC BCS bowls). But the argument is futile, no matter how much you argue it. nothing on the field ever changes the BCS. the only thing that can change it is fans not watching the games. you're just as much a part of the system when you ascribe to the arguments you've written, and it's why i'm on this blog calling you out. you guys are searching for affirmation, not information. bat99 and geoausch:

no, i get the points you guys are trying to make. it’s just that you don’t get the BCS. ask brad edwards of espn his opinion. you know what he says? hint: jerry palm says the same thing.

“the one thing that will not change the BCS is anything that takes place on the field.”

that’s it, simple, cut and plain. you’re arguing simple arguments, which teams like utah, tcu and boise have helped validify. yes, they are quality teams. yes, they can beat anyone, anyday of the weak. but they obviously have so much more to prove, and you can’t possibly tell me Alabama has as much to prove in the Sugar Bowl as Utah does.

i get that you guys are looking for “teams to get their shot.” everyone likes an underdog (except the economy, which will generate more money from the Sugar, Rose and NC BCS bowls). But the argument is futile, no matter how much you argue it. nothing on the field ever changes the BCS. the only thing that can change it is fans not watching the games. you’re just as much a part of the system when you ascribe to the arguments you’ve written, and it’s why i’m on this blog calling you out. you guys are searching for affirmation, not information.

]]> By: geoausch http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-111 geoausch Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:03:59 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-111 Bat99, you hit the nail on the head exactly! The detractors say TCU and Boise St. don't deserve a shot because they don't play anyone. Well, a lot of schools don't want to play them during the regular season and they depend upon the BCS to give them that opportunity. However, the "underdogs" beat the "big dogs" then the BCS would lose relevancy and a playoff system would become much more viable. Bat99, you hit the nail on the head exactly! The detractors say TCU and Boise St. don’t deserve a shot because they don’t play anyone. Well, a lot of schools don’t want to play them during the regular season and they depend upon the BCS to give them that opportunity. However, the “underdogs” beat the “big dogs” then the BCS would lose relevancy and a playoff system would become much more viable.

]]> By: bat99 http://geoausch.com/2009/12/08/the-tcuboise-state-problem/#comment-110 bat99 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:07:46 +0000 http://geoausch.com/?p=659#comment-110 Robert, you don't get the point I was trying to make. By putting TCU and Boise St in the same bowl we don't get to find out if they could play with the big boys. According to the rules of the BCS games they setup with the Bowls the matchups should have been Cincy against Georgia Tech, TCU against Florida, and Boise St against either Iowa or Oregon St. But can you imagine what would have happened if TCU, Boise St, and Cincy all won in this scenario. The uproar would have been trememdous. They didn't want to take this chance and that is why they put TCU and Boise St in the same bowl. Robert, you don’t get the point I was trying to make. By putting TCU and Boise St in the same bowl we don’t get to find out if they could play with the big boys. According to the rules of the BCS games they setup with the Bowls the matchups should have been Cincy against Georgia Tech, TCU against Florida, and Boise St against either Iowa or Oregon St. But can you imagine what would have happened if TCU, Boise St, and Cincy all won in this scenario. The uproar would have been trememdous. They didn’t want to take this chance and that is why they put TCU and Boise St in the same bowl.

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